Cuteness will always turn my tumblers and unlock my desires
An interview with an avid porn collector.
I have known Steve "Pudgy" DeRose for about 10 years now. I first met him through the Chicago zine scene, when I used to help distribute his soccer-zine, "Incendiary Words". That zine focused entirely on the world of soccer, with reviews of matches, statistics on various players, and so on. A reader need not skim more than a paragraph or two before realizing that Steve was an expert on all things soccer. (Steve is an elector for Futbol de Primera's "U.S. Soccer Player of the Year", and has been since its inauguration 23 years ago.)
It took me much longer to realize Steve is also an expert on pornography.
I learned he hosted an *adults only* event at the Twisted Spoke, a bar/restaurant in Chicago. Once a week, on Saturdays after midnight, while patrons drank booze and had a good time, Steve would screen "good" porn films. He did this for over ten years. And just as he knows lots of stats and stories about soccer players, he also knows lots of stats and stories about porn.
How old were you when you discovered pornography?
This may seem stunning, but I actually did not begin watching what somebody would call "porn" until I was eighteen. It wasn't until after I graduated from high school in May, 1974 that I registered with Selective Service. With that card as identification I began spending select Sunday afternoons at the Monroe Theater in downtown Chicago. The Monroe was a second-run house; it set its lower age restriction at 18 (quite a few "adults only" theaters set their age at 21); and it cost only $1.50. In 1974, the Monroe was exhibiting “Soft-X” movies, which it had been doing for at least four years.
When did you start collecting porn films?
This did not start until the mid-1980s. I believe the first videocassettes I bought were a couple from the shop associated with the Admiral Theater in 1986. I am pretty sure those were " The Joy Of Fooling Around" (1978), and "Expensive Taste" (1979). I remembered "Expensive Taste" as having been shown in its ‘cool’ version on ON-TV, a subscription TV channel then on in Chicago [Ch. 44]. A few more were ordered afterward from the Publishers Central Bureau mail-order catalog.
How many films do you own?
This is difficult for me to compute. I didn't catalog my porn purchases at the beginning (unlike my record LPs). Later, I was sent some videocassettes with multiple movies duplicated on them in SLP mode, and in some instances, they had been edited to fit more than six of them on one T-120 tape. So do I count those? Some of my final VHS buys were from Video Age mail-order, and those have four movies on each T-120. I have endeavored to catalog my Japanese Adult Video buys, but I know I have missed some of those. Its current total is around 670.
What are a few of your favorite pornos, and why?
I am proud and happy to admit that I have the movies which I really enjoyed. The very first one I saw was on a Sunday afternoon in June 1975 at the Monroe. It is titled "High School Fantasies" (1974) directed by James Bryan, the same guy who directed the *banned in England* horror movie " Don't Go In The Woods." In the synopsis I composed for it, I state, "Only the intimate part of my body was seemingly ready for this." This movie just threw open the doors for me. I admit to *crying* at the end of the movie when Freddy, our protagonist, finally scores with René Bond, his ‘dream girl’.
The one which is my favorite is "Double Your Pleasure" (1978). It stars Brooke & Taylor Young, who are genuine twins. They are cute. Cuteness will always turn my tumblers and unlock my desires. There is a cohesive plot (good porn has plots), and the money shots are pretty voluminous, which sometimes finds reciprocation on my behalf.
I have heard you rant about "mainstream" movies. Do you feel the same about "mainstream" porn? Is there even such a thing as mainstream porn?
There is "mainstream" porn. It has been around since the early 1970s. Even before "Deep Throat". A lot of early 1970s porn is distinctively "mainstream" because the only element our director had to incorporate was what might be denigrated nowadays as '*vanilla*' porn: Cock-sucking, and missionary position insertion shots. People were surprised if they saw merely that.
Something I was always keen to point out on synopses was that many porn performers could act. But they were too infrequently asked to do so. Further distressing, by their mere presence in explicit movies, here in North America, they were ghettoized and kept out of non-explicit, 'regular' movies. Any number of male performers, including Jamie Gillis (R.I.P.), should have crossed over to more regular movies. (It happened again just recently with Jenna Jameson, although, to be frank, she made bad decisions on key aspects of her life, including an absolutely unnecessary boob job.)
I can refer to a number of European or Japanese theatrical movies which have performers who have appeared in explicit shoots. Seemingly, only North America has the *stigma*. The history of softcore porn was that the moviemakers *never really showed you* what you were hoping/expecting to view. So they ensnared you into returning to the theater for its next presentation in hope that *they would show it to you then*. In this context, it is understandable why hardcore just obliterated softcore when it hit. After weeks and months of being teased, when someone finally viewed the satisfying content he/she was hoping for, nobody was going to voluntarily buy a ticket for a teasing softcore movie anymore. Movies which had been lensed soft were re-edited to include hardcore imagery, generally via inserts, and typically looking totally out of context from the remainder of the movie. This is the origin of the cliché, "intrusive porno inserts". But, they saved those movies' producers, directors, and distributors from losing money on their investment.
Speaking for myself, I strive to be tolerant and egalitarian. If the extent of what our moviemaker wants to go is restricted to missionary position sex, OK, that is his/her choice.
Pornography is something people usually indulge in when they are alone. Viewing it is usually a secretive activity. How do people react when they see sex in a public setting, like when you screened films at the Twisted Spoke?
The key is: People have to know it is occurring. What makes the movies I show(ed) distinctive is that they are not just six sex acts in an hour. They have plots, and character development, *in addition to the explicit sex*.
Sporadically, I will go out-and-about with a porn DVD in my satchel. I take note of what other movie a venue presents one night in consideration of what I should bring there. But I am really pushing it if I try to convince the venue to put it on. Even if the video is only softcore, (it may not go over well) because patrons there might not expect it. A subtle, but significant factor in this is: Everybody's definition of "porn" is different. To some, *any* topless nudity by a female constitutes "porn". To others: Angling a camera shot to depict a female's panties is "porn". What is that person's basis for calling it "porn"? Is it to be lobbying for its prohibition? Or is it to be included as something this person finds arousing? I believe this will never be satisfactorily determined for everybody's tastes. I just sincerely hope that everybody becomes more tolerant of other people's consumption of "porn". I will not judge you by the "porn" you like to view. I ask that you do the same for me.
If you could meet any one person in the porn industry, who would it be?
I've actually done pretty well on this aspect, although I am not a *star chaser*. I've met Asia Carrera, Linda Thoren, Ginger Lynn, Seka, Sharon Mitchell, Nina Hartley, Carter Stevens, Radley Metzger, Lloyd Kaufman, Herschell G. Lewis, Marilyn Chambers (R.I.P.), Jamie Gillis (R.I.P.), Bill Landis (R.I.P.), Danny Stone (R.I.P.), Don Edmonds (R.I.P.), & David F. Friedman (R.I.P.). That's all I can think of, but there may have been others.
To answer your question: If Vanessa Del Rio can find somebody to take care of her dogs while she is away from NYC, Cinema Wasteland of suburban Cleveland, OH. would love to have her; and I would definitely attend that exposition.
Any porno-related plans for the future?
I'd enjoy being booked to show the movies in my library somewhere again. I have a World-Wide Web page out here with more information [ http://snipr.com/hireme2]. I'm not looking to make money doing this. I have newer selections which I never showed at the Twisted Spoke, Risqué Cafe (R.I.P.), or Exit. What I really want is a commitment with dates and times I can promote beyond the venue's own marketing. People are interested in these movies.
You can find out more about Steve by visiting http://snipr.com/sdr001. From there, you can jump to his soccer pages, or browse three public bookmark pages. One is regular links. The second and third are adult-oriented.
Or you can email him directly at: qsmut3.pudgym29 @ xoxy.net.